unions

[quinner]

have the trade unions in ireland got too much power.......are their members getting an unfair advantage during the present economic crisis ?.......

[Ballinamoe]

have the trade unions in ireland got too much power.......are their members getting an unfair advantage during the present economic crisis ?.......

Wouldnt say their members are getting an unfair advantage exactly but the Union leaders need to grow up and look at the situation around them and move into the real world. But I dont expect they will. Sometimes I wonder if Jack O'Connor is extracting the Urine or if he is for real.

[quinner]

Wouldnt say their members are getting an unfair advantage exactly but the Union leaders need to grow up and look at the situation around them and move into the real world. But I dont expect they will. Sometimes I wonder if Jack O'Connor is extracting the Urine or if he is for real.

may i ask who jack o'connor is, please

[Ballinamoe]

may i ask who jack o'connor is, please

Leader of SIPTU. The largest union over here.

[quinner]

Leader of SIPTU. The largest union over here.

if lots of people are getting less income.....prices should drop accordingly....is union power keeping some prices unfairly high ????

[silver spoon]

have the trade unions in ireland got too much power.......are their members getting an unfair advantage during the present economic crisis ?.......

I don't know about this situation, so I'll keep looking in to find out. It does seem strange that they would have so much power with high unemployment.

[quinner]

I don't know about this situation, so I'll keep looking in to find out. It does seem strange that they would have so much power with high unemployment.

yes it would.....if the private sector shrinks....there is a reason for unemployment, and prices should drop accordingly..............as their income shrinks............

the public sector income also shrinks.....is there the same knock on affect....or are the unions too strong ?......

[Ballinamoe]

if lots of people are getting less income.....prices should drop accordingly....is union power keeping some prices unfairly high ????

I dont know if I would say that exactly. I mean the minimum wage is a bit silly cos yer better off on the dole than working but some of the expectations of Unions is plain stupid given the situation we are in. And possibly we are in this situation partly because of concessions to the Unions under Bertie Ahern.

[quinner]

I dont know if I would say that exactly. I mean the minimum wage is a bit silly cos yer better off on the dole than working but some of the expectations of Unions is plain stupid given the situation we are in. And possibly we are in this situation partly because of concessions to the Unions under Bertie Ahern.

so, some of the present hardships could be caused by the unions......

[silver spoon]

I dont know if I would say that exactly. I mean the minimum wage is a bit silly cos yer better off on the dole than working but some of the expectations of Unions is plain stupid given the situation we are in. And possibly we are in this situation partly because of concessions to the Unions under Bertie Ahern.

What concessions are you referring to Ballinmoe.?

[Ballinamoe]

so, some of the present hardships could be caused by the unions......

Definetly. And expectations of workers are unrealistic as a result of Union posturing.
A contradiction in terms but there is too much socialism in trade unions for my liking.
You can defend the working class in a realistic fashion. In my dealings with the UNion they want more more more even when more is unjustified.

[quinner]

Definetly. And expectations of workers are unrealistic as a result of Union posturing.
A contradiction in terms but there is too much socialism in trade unions for my liking.
You can defend the working class in a realistic fashion. In my dealings with the UNion they want more more more even when more is unjustified.

why is everybody not moaning about the unions then...................have they got a special right...

[Ballinamoe]

why is everybody not moaning about the unions then...................have they got a special right...

Cos everyone wants more. You WILL hear grumblings on the ground but only grumblings. I rarely hear people with the same view as me. Maybe Im the only one??
At the minute they are all negotiating redundancies so we dont hear much from them. Although Eddie Stobart is going on strike shortly.

[silver spoon]

What concessions are you referring to Ballinmoe.?

I'll ask again.

[quinner]

Cos everyone wants more. You WILL hear grumblings on the ground but only grumblings. I rarely hear people with the same view as me. Maybe Im the only one??
At the minute they are all negotiating redundancies so we dont hear much from them. Although Eddie Stobart is going on strike shortly.

is that good for your company>??????