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  • The Corruption Of An Garda Síochána?

    The Garda Síochána Ombudsman tonight issued a statement on the bugging of its headquarters, saying it had found no evidence of wrong-doing by Gardaí.

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  • #2
    A rookie detective would suspect he police as obvious suspects in all this.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Korky View Post
      A rookie detective would suspect he police as obvious suspects in all this.
      Statement from the Ombudsman is ambiguous... saying they 'found no evidence' of Garda involvement doesn't mean they don't suspect them...

      Thing is... who investigates an issue like this ?
      Everything is self-evident.

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      • #4
        Surely the Garda Ombudsman's job is "pointing the finger" ?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hagar View Post
          Surely the Garda Ombudsman's job is "pointing the finger" ?
          The only people they investigate is the cops and if they suspect the cops are bugging them - who do they go to ? The minister I suppose...but maybe he's also a suspect ?
          Everything is self-evident.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cogito View Post
            The only people they investigate is the cops and if they suspect the cops are bugging them - who do they go to ? The minister I suppose...but maybe he's also a suspect ?
            Alan Shatter passes everything on to the police commissioner.

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            • #7
              spies

              Hands up all those fools who dont think that it was the- GARDA- who placed the bugs 'this police force is corrupt and most of the promotions are gained by being a friend of a political party .They feel they are answerable to nobody but themselves 'as for this minister of justice he is the most arrogant sod who ever held this position .Irish people are not fools 'although labour and fine gael made gobshites of us all since last election .What we need in this country is a good uprising or a politician like paisely Cant wait for next election or local elections to see the traitor gilmore and his cronies in fine gael disappear 'although with massive pensions

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              • #8
                How long do you think a corrupt Garda Commissioner would last with Gerry or Martin as Taoiseach?

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                • #9
                  gerry

                  Originally posted by Hagar View Post
                  How long do you think a corrupt Garda Commissioner would last with Gerry or Martin as Taoiseach?
                  I would to give them a chance 'could they be any worse than this shower of gangsters they have been filling their pockets with our money since the foundation of the state 'theres not one of them i would trust as far as i could throw them 'As it has been said all pigs with their noses in the trough while they take away telephone allowance from pensioners 'and hit the most vunerable like carers and invalids

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by antmel View Post
                    Hands up all those fools who dont think that it was the- GARDA- who placed the bugs 'this police force is corrupt and most of the promotions are gained by being a friend of a political party .They feel they are answerable to nobody but themselves 'as for this minister of justice he is the most arrogant sod who ever held this position .Irish people are not fools 'although labour and fine gael made gobshites of us all since last election .What we need in this country is a good uprising or a politician like paisely Cant wait for next election or local elections to see the traitor gilmore and his cronies in fine gael disappear 'although with massive pensions
                    This fool, based on the evidence that's emerged so far, is not convinced that anyone was bugging anyone.

                    When the story broke last weekend, like many others I was sure the Guards had been caught red handed - but what's come out since is pretty lame as far as bugging goes...maybe there's something more substantial out there about to be revealed - but at this stage I've done a 180 degrees turn on the whole issue... and as things stand at the moment, the cops are right to be seriously pissed off.
                    Everything is self-evident.

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                    • #11
                      The notion that we live in a true democracy is a joke, judging by the response by Government, gardaí, and parts of the media to suspected bug at GSOC offices, says Michael Clifford

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cogito View Post
                        This fool, based on the evidence that's emerged so far, is not convinced that anyone was bugging anyone.

                        When the story broke last weekend, like many others I was sure the Guards had been caught red handed - but what's come out since is pretty lame as far as bugging goes...maybe there's something more substantial out there about to be revealed - but at this stage I've done a 180 degrees turn on the whole issue... and as things stand at the moment, the cops are right to be seriously pissed off.
                        Hope I've got that right... 'cos if I'm wrong... I'm very wrong.
                        Everything is self-evident.

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                        • #13
                          bugs

                          Brilliant article .The real problem with this country is blind obedience givin by party lackeys to these gangsters in dail eireann 'lets not forget pee flynn and his daughter and burke and the other fella who was caught up in the park looking for rent boys twice 'and is still a td ' or the oul wans in donnycarney screaming charlie is our darling while this crook was telling us to tighten our belts while knocking off your wan and going to france for his expensive shirts
                          things will never change as long as idiots are licking their local td's arse

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                          • #14
                            The Corruption Of An Garda Síochána?

                            It’s clear to anyone of sound mind that the Irish police force has become corrupt and unaccountable. What may have started as a fairly trivial investigation into the systemic erosion of penalty points has underpinned what many have believed for some time now, the Gardaí are above the laws they purport to uphold. Here is a brief summary of the important, inter-linked issues to date.

                            Penalty Points – The Gardaí have been wiping people’s penalty points from their licenses as personal favours on an enormous scale. At first glance, a typically Irish brand of parochial corruption but the story goes much deeper.

                            War on Whistleblowers – The mechanisms by which Gardaí can report wrongdoing within the force have proven to be a sham. Gardaí can supposedly approach the office of the Confidential Recipient, a subset of the Department of Justice, anonymously and blow the whistle on internal corruption. However the case is then referred to the Garda Commissioner to investigate so it can be a case of senior Gardaí investing senior Gardaí. The internal report into the penalty points found no evidence of corruption surprisingly enough, a report which didn’t even interview the very whistleblowers who raised the issue in the first place. The Gardaí have a long record of harassing and frustrating the work of whistleblowers in the past including the two officers who revealed the penalty points scandal. Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan described the actions of the whistleblowers as “disgusting”.

                            The Media – Irish Independent journalist Gemma O’Doherty who was investigating the penalty points corruption, was internally disciplined for calling to Garda Commisioner Martin Callinan’s house for comment, a fairly typical journalistic tactic. A few weeks later, she was offered a “voluntary redundancy” despite having been one of the paper’s top investigative reporters for over a decade. It subsequently emerged, though absolutely nowhere in the Irish media, that the Irish Independent’s editor in chief Stephen Rae, a former editor of the Garda Review magazine, had his penalty points wiped clean.

                            Cold Case –Father Niall Molloy was murdered in 1985 in an inheritance quarrel seemingly lifted from John B. Keane’s The Field. Evidence was contaminated, key witnesses were not interviewed and the Judge was a family friend of the accused. Where the Gardaí come in is intriguing. Martin Cahill, ‘The General’ and one of Ireland’s most infamous crimes bosses, stole files from the Director of Public Prosecution’s office, files that contained details of the case previously unknown to the public. Journalist Veronica Guerin then revealed some of Cahill’s information which exposed the pathetic Gardai investigation into the murder and the willingness of the DPP to cover it up.

                            So concerned were the Gardai with retrieving Cahill’s stolen files that, according to crime reporter Paul Williams, they cut a deal with him to drop charges against his associate John Traynor, one of the most notorious gangsters in Ireland. The Molloy case was reopened but despite the overwhelming amounts of evidence for a cover-up and at least mass negligence, nothing ever came of it. The journalist who took up the case and forced the State to reopen it? Gemma O’Doherty of the Irish Independent.

                            GSOC and Minister Alan Shatter – One of the whistleblowing Gardai involved in the penalty points case was told by the office of the Confidential Recipient that Minister Alan Shatter “will go after you” if he were to proceed with his complaints. In addition, GSOC, the Garda Ombudsman, discovered that its office had been bugged last year but did not approach Minister Shatter over the issue, clearly in fear or knowledge that he would not do anything about it. The Gardaí have denied bugging the office but the question of who else would bug the office of a body charged with supervising the state’s police force springs to mind.

                            Rather than address this essential question of who bugged GSOC, Minister Shatter has sought to downplay the event and even focus his criticism on the comparably insignificant matter of GSOC failing to inform him of this security breach at an earlier date.



                            What's your opinion?
                            Last edited by Rashers; 24-02-2014, 02:36 PM.
                            'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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                            • #15
                              People use to think that Guards were just thick culchies. A bit harsh maybe but at least stupidity could be excused, corruption cannot be excused.

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