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Originally posted by Red Biddy View PostHi, whats your thoughts on it?Last edited by Guest; 17-03-2011, 01:01 PM.
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It looks as if things have taken a change for the worse with the ConDems pressing for a no fly zone (I believe he is doing so to try to look good on the world stage whilst also believing it may take the peoples in the UK minds off the drastic cuts he presides over, including huge cuts to the military - (link from the BBC website) and I am not happy at the decision but disgusted at how Gadaffi and his murderous army are killing their own people. If he is such a good man why has he not stepped down gracefully and why is he killing hius own people?
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Originally posted by Red Biddy View PostIt looks as if things have taken a change for the worse with the ConDems pressing for a no fly zone (I believe he is doing so to try to look good on the world stage whilst also believing it may take the peoples in the UK minds off the drastic cuts he presides over, including huge cuts to the military - (link from the BBC website) and I am not happy at the decision but disgusted at how Gadaffi and his murderous army are killing their own people. If he is such a good man why has he not stepped down gracefully and why is he killing hius own people?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12781009
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Originally posted by Riposte View PostRed......... a bunch outlaws are trying to take over Libya......... they came with anti-aircraft guns to attack Tripoli ......... the people of Tripoli fought back and drove them away........... this upset their foreign backers and now they are going to bomb the people of Libya "to save them" ........Red ....... did you support the IRA against the British Government?
But we veer away from the subject matter. The posturing of Gadaffi reported in the media - he would seek out and destroy people (nice) - hardly makes me believe he is whiter than white. A man who has almost absolute power for so long and is drunk on the power
Time for a change I believe
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But no cease fire took place. Instead, France took the lead with the UK close behine and went in and all for the wrong reasons in my opinion - posturing. Of course Gaddafi is a tyrent, but as usual he wiull survive, probably hide in places where no one will find him just like Bin Laden and as usual civilians will pay a high price
It always happens - when a government has problems at home - and both France and the UK have massive problems at home they try to act 'hard' on the so called world stage
Tatcher did it in the Falklands and is guilty of killing 600 men sailing away from the area - politcs are muck
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Originally posted by RiposteNo reflection on the soldiers in the front line Rashers ....... they just follow orders........ and this is the first time the UN has done this ....... Kosovo was not authorised by the UN...... it was NATO led.'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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Sorry I've come so late to this discussion ..... I always love to read the thoughts of those against the main stream because they are so often more correct than the accepted Western philosophies. This is the only way we can get a balanced view and I must say Riposte that I admire both your eloquence and the lack of blatant propaganda delivered in a nice calm manner. ...I might not agree with everything you say but I enjoy reading your views.
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Originally posted by RiposteRashers .... Soldiers do what Soldiers do ....... Kosovo is part of Serbia going back six hundreds of years ........ the Serbs holiest places are in Kosovo ..... just because the Serbs tolerated the immigration of Albanians ...... fleeing from Albania ......... Kosovo became over-populated by Albanians ........ and then they demanded a break-away state.... with the ultimate intention of joining up with Albania. The west opposed the Serbs because ...... they were backed by Russia. Germany and Britain supported the break-up of Yougoslavia ........ contrary to the United Nations Charter........... the rules only apply .........when it suits them. The USA can bomb anybody, anywhere, anytime ...... because there is nobody to stop them ......... morality or law has nothing to do with it ........ might is right.'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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Originally posted by RiposteRashers ......... you can't have any bunch of people grab Kalashnikovs and take over a country......(and at the same time call themselves civilians)....those who led the attack on Tripoli were thugs, gangsters and terrorists.......... Libya was one of the most democratic countries in the world........ the people's councils voted on all aspects of government policy ....... everything you've read or seen about Libya on TV has been lies.
Our own revolution against what many believed to be a very democratic government?
If what we're hearing out of Libya is lies... why the swing against the ruliers?'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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Originally posted by RiposteRashers ......... in any time of upheaval ....... ie the rebellions in Egypt and Tunisia .....(where they people were oppressed by Western-backed dictators) ........ opportunists will join the band-waggon and try to grab what they can .... nobody has any idea what kind of regime will come to power if Gaddafi is overthrown ......... as for the French and Irish revolutions ...... we know that people were repressed in those periods......... the worst aspect of what we are witnessing now is not the attack on Libya by the the west..... but the wholesale conspiracy of lies by the world's media......... the fact nobody anywhere has said "stop." The truth always comes out later ..... eg ........the lies we were told before the war in Iraq.
Somebody did say 'stop' after ground attacks today.
You're not seriously suggesting that the Tunisia and Egyptian revolutions were carried out by opportunists ?'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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Originally posted by RiposteRashers ......... you can't have any bunch of people grab Kalashnikovs and take over a country......(and at the same time call themselves civilians)....those who led the attack on Tripoli were thugs, gangsters and terrorists.......... Libya was one of the most democratic countries in the world........ the people's councils voted on all aspects of government policy ....... everything you've read or seen about Libya on TV has been lies.Everything is self-evident.
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