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    I read the one about the Argentinian who fought in the GPO. In the attached link Damian Shields tells about the Swede and the Finn who also fought there.

    Column: Nordic Rebels – The Swede and Finn who fought in the GPO, 1916

    The story of the two Nordic recruits to the cause of the Irish Republic remains one of the most remarkable of Easter Week, writes Damian Shiels.
    I google because I'm not young enough to know everything.
    Nemo Mortalium Omnibus Horis Sapit

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    Originally posted by jembo View Post
    I read the one about the Argentinian who fought in the GPO. In the attached link Damian Shields tells about the Swede and the Finn who also fought there.

    Column: Nordic Rebels – The Swede and Finn who fought in the GPO, 1916

    http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/ordi...30007-Dec2013/
    LOL...The Vikings came back......great story.....

    Though, the Swede obviously hadn't reads about Swedens long history of taking over smaller nations......
    Here Rex!!!...Here Rex!!!.....Wuff!!!....... Wuff!!!

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    • #3
      Easter Rising- 2nd Battalion

      Hi,

      I've been looking into the Rising and the people who participated. I've looked on the military archives site and found the membership rolls for E & F Company's of 2nd Battalion, but B & D are not on there?

      I was wondering if anyone know's of a membership/ participation list of B or D Company, 2nd Battalion, Dublin Brigade?

      Cheers.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dsc View Post
        Hi,

        I've been looking into the Rising and the people who participated. I've looked on the military archives site and found the membership rolls for E & F Company's of 2nd Battalion, but B & D are not on there?

        I was wondering if anyone know's of a membership/ participation list of B or D Company, 2nd Battalion, Dublin Brigade?

        Cheers.
        Thanks for your comments on the Squad thread.

        Re. D Company, 2nd Battalion - some names below from the 1934 pensions survey...

        D Company 2nd Batt 1916.jpg

        D Company 2nd Batt 1916 - 2.jpg

        I'm guessing the Martin Savage referred to as KIA is the same person who died in Ashtown in the ambush some years later.
        Last edited by cogito; 29-01-2015, 02:54 AM.
        Everything is self-evident.

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        • #5
          Nice one, thank you for the replies.

          Both of your links were very helpful, must have missed both of those when I was looking through the pension & witness statement archives respectively.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dsc View Post
            Nice one, thank you for the replies.

            Both of your links were very helpful, must have missed both of those when I was looking through the pension & witness statement archives respectively.
            You would have missed my link as I didn't put one up. Here it is...



            D Company appears to have consisted of just 9 members in Easter 1916 as per the list above.

            D Company 2nd Batt 1916 - 3.jpg

            The notes were written, I believe, by Frank Henderson in 1935.
            Everything is self-evident.

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            • #7
              The Battle of Mount Street Bridge

              The Battle of Mount Street bridge is renowned as being one of the most brutal and bloody battles which took place during the whole of the 1916 Rising. The Volunteers positioned around the area inflicted huge casualties on the British forces with official army figures showing 220 men killed or wounded during the engagement.

              The most important of the positions held by the Volunteers was that of the now demolished Clanwilliam House which stood on the corner of Mount Street and Clanwilliam Place.It was from this strong strategic position that just seven men of C Company, 3rd Battalion of the Irish Volunteers barricaded themselves inside the house and waited for the large numbers of British reinforcements that would eventually come marching down Northumberland Road towards the city centre.

              On Wednesday afternoon the men of the Notts and Derbyshire Regiment came within range of the small group of Volunteers in the area and were forced into a fierce battle that none of them were prepared for. There was little or no cover for the British soldiers as they tried to cross over Mount Street Bridge and wave after wave fell in their attempts. Although this position could easily have been by-passed and surrounded, General Lowe insisted that his men continued to advance on the whistle as they had been trained to do. However, this was not trench warfare but an urban battle against well entrenched rebels and due to Lowe's scant regard for the lives of his soldiers, many more men died or were injured than was necessary.

              For most of the day the seven men in Clanwilliam House, under the command of section leader George Reynolds, managed to hold off over 2,000 British soldiers from advancing over the bridge. At times the fighting was so intense that the Volunteers had to cool their rifles in buckets of water due to the constant firing. The only cessation would occur when the nearby doctors and nurses, in official white coats, would enter the battlefield to attend to the wounded. To their credit, on such occasions, both sides would cease their firing. During the battle three of the Irish Volunteers would eventually be killed (Patrick Doyle, Dick Murphy & George Reynolds) and for the four remaining men in Clanwilliam House things were beginning to look desperate.

              Much of the house was now in flames and the staircases were beginning to collapse. The four Volunteers left in the house, James Doyle, Willie Ronan and brothers James & Thomas Walsh, decided it was time to try and escape the burning building. They began looking for a line of retreat but were hampered by the fact that all the windows and doors had been barricaded before the fight began. Luckily, they found a small window, about one foot squared, above a barricaded door in the basement and managed to wriggle out of it into the back garden. The four men each found a change of clothing to replace their uniforms and dispersed making their escape. For the four survivors of Clanwilliam House it would be December 1916 before they would eventually be able to return to their homes and families.

              From HERE.

              The four survivors of Clanwilliam House: Tom Walsh, Willie Ronan (Standing L-R) James Doyle and Jim Walsh (Seated L-R).
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              'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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              • #8
                Great one rashers.
                I have always regarded this battle as the greatest victory of the rising if not one of the best in our history when you take it all into consideration.

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                • #9
                  As the Brits said "It's an ambush, there must be at least seven of them"

                  We should be marching in the streets commemorating the memory of these heroes not debating whether to invite English Royalty to our celebrations.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hagar View Post
                    As the Brits said "It's an ambush, there must be at least seven of them"

                    We should be marching in the streets commemorating the memory of these heroes not debating whether to invite English Royalty to our celebrations.
                    Dead on there hagar.
                    I have told many Canadians about this battle and others and they find it hard to believe but you have to remember that everything here in English Canada has a bent toward England.

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                    • #11
                      Pearse Surrenders

                      Nurse O’Farrell states that the surrender took place at the top of Moore Street and that's where Eamon Mac Thomais said she took him to the spot at the top of Moore Street and Parnell Street .As can be seen in the you-tube video
                      From Elizabeth O’Farrell’s Story of the Surrender Commandant

                      Pearse Surrenders

                      "It was about 3.30 p.m. when General Lowe received Commandant Pearse at the top of Moore Street, in Great Britain Street. One of the officers that had been a prisoner in the G.P.O. was asked to identify Commandant Pearse and he could not – he said he did not see him in the G.P.O. He asked Commandant Pearse was he in the G.P.O. and he said he was – the officer said: “I did not see you there.”

                      Commandant Pearse then handed up his sword to General Lowe. General Lowe to Commandant Pearse: “The only condition I make is that I will allow the other Commandants to surrender. I understand you have the countess de Markievicz down There.”

                      Commandant Pearse: ”no she is not with me.”
                      General Lowe: “Oh, I know she is down there.”
                      Commandant Pearse: “Don’t accuse me of speaking an untruth.”
                      General Lowe: “Oh, I beg your pardon, Mr. Pearse, but I know she is in the area.”
                      Commandant Pearse: “Well, she is not with me, sir.”

                      General Lowe then suggested that the military should detain me (Nurse O’Farrell) for the night in order to take around next day,
                      Commandant Pearse’s orders for surrender to the other Commandants, when Commandant Pearse would give me a list of the addresses of the occupations by the Irish Republican troops, promising, at the same time, to set me free and give me a safe convoy pass when I should have accomplished this.

                      Commandant Pearse turned to me and said: “Will you agree to this?” I said: “Yes, if you wish it.” He said: “I do wish it.” Pearse then shook hands with me, but spoke no word."

                      Attached Files
                      'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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                      • #12
                        John "Blimey" O'Connor Easter Rising Stories


                        Directed and edited by Marcus Howard, independent film maker. John "Blimey" O'Connor was involved in telling the world through radio broadcasts about the 1916 Easter Rising as it actually took place. The story is told by his daughter Cáit Mhic Ionnraic who has 2 connections to the Rising, her father and father in-law. Her father travelled from London to serve in The Kimmage Garrison and played a very active role in 1916. Cáit also reads from his memoirs about his experiences in the GPO, getting the transmission out, and the last stand at Moore Street. His story weaves in and out among Joseph Plunkett, Tom Clarke, Michael Collins, The O'Rahilly, Sean Mac Dermott and many others. Cáit Mhic Ionnraic also gives her thoughts on the preservation of Moore Street.

                        Easter Rising Stories is a series of films by independent film maker Marcus Howard. The videos are not for profit but for educational purposes. The aim of the series is to capture the recollections of relatives of the Easter Rising of 1916 as well as to document events and stories relating to the Easter Rising. If you are interested in getting in touch please contact:
                        easterrisingstories@gmail.com

                        Interviewed by Marcus Howard and Jean O'Donnell.

                        Colorised photographs provided by Tony Nicoletti.

                        Executive Research Consultant Ben Fagan.

                        Original cover of The Soldiers' Song by Frances Rocks
                        Original cover of Amhrán na bhFiann by Cáit Mhic Ionnraic and Deirdre Nic Eanruig.

                        Moore Street reenactment by the Cabra Historical Society.

                        1916 Irish Rebellion morse code broadcast
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oym9j...
                        Uploaded by luachnambrog on 15 September 2013

                        Creative Commons License Public Domain.This video is to be used for educational discussion. This video can be shared but must be shown in it's entirety. Please share and help get the message out if you agree with some of the arguments discussed.

                        This video is for fair use for purposes like criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research and it obeys Fair Use law.

                        Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for fair use for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.
                        'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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                        • #13
                          For the day that's in it. 24th April 1916 - 2015



























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                          • #14
                            The Rebel

                            The Rebel is a poem which was written by the famous Irish revolutionary, poet, Irish language teacher and scholar, Padraic Pearse. He would go onto take a leading role in the Easter Rising of 1916, for his part he would be executed by British forces.


                            'Never look down on a person unless you're helping them up'.
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                            • #15
                              I've still to watch part 10.....but so far, I think this is a brilliant production: interesting, informative, nice background music. Good to hear the "back stories" of each of the signatories. Some touching moments, without being over-sentimental, and interesting commentary from contemporaries and historians.

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