MR. MACGRATH: I told him in no circumstances was he to publish them; I reported this matter then to the chiefs on this side of the House and we took particular precaution and sent two men to the Press—the Freeman and Independent—to tell them under no circumstances were they to be published.
THE SPEAKER: Well it is understood that these documents and notes of that Committee which met in private are confidential.
MR. MACENTEE: I presume that the publication of these documents will be regarded by this House as a breach of privilege, and that if they will be published——
MR. HOGAN: I have been listening for five minutes to the debate which went on on the assumption that some of the Committee are trying underhand methods to get out these things—that somebody is trying to get out documents which are confidential. Is that a fair statement?
THE SPEAKER: That statement has not been made.
MR. HOGAN: I say on behalf of this side of the Committee that we are doing our best to the contrary.
PRESIDENT DE VALERA: I never made any remarks of the kind. I would have kept silent on it were it not for the remark of the Deputy for Longford that they went down on their knees to get unity.
MR. MACGUINNESS: To anybody who was present yesterday it will be clear that what I have said is absolutely true.
The House adjourned at 1.40 p.m.
The Dáil Eireann Session was resumed at 4.10 p.m. on Saturday, 7th January, 1922, with THE SPEAKER (DR. MACNEILL) in the Chair.
MR. LIAM MELLOWES: On a point of information, there is a notice of motion here by Doctor MacNeill. Is that in order?
THE SPEAKER: In order? Well, it is.
MR. LIAM MELLOWES: Should we not get twenty-four hours' notice?
[320]THE SPEAKER: It is not put before you yet. Very likely you will have forty-eight hours' notice of it.
MADAME MARKIEVICZ: Is that a vote of confidence by the people who are voting for Saorstát na hEireann?
THE SPEAKER: It can't be discussed now.
At the request of the Speaker the Secretary, Mr. Diarmuid O'Hegarty, called the roll, when 122 members answered.
MR. DANIEL CORKERY: I rise to vote against this Treaty; I believe if I voted for this Treaty I would be voting against the independence of my country; I am not prepared to do that. I believe, also, if we go into this British Empire we will go in there as a prop to hold up a rotten Empire. We have heard a lot here of the alternative to this Treaty— terrible and immediate war. Well, I have the honour of representing Mid-Cork in this Dáil, and I think this guerilla warfare was started in Mid.-Cork; I believe the first lorry was attacked in Mid.-Cork; the people have been with us all the time up to the Truce and they never flinched though they often heard the angry crack of the rifle and machine gun. The people down there do not want war, but they are not half as much afraid of war as the people from other counties who have not fired a shot yet. I am against this Treaty.
MR. JOSEPH MACGUINNESS: I am sorry to admit that I have lost; this was the shortest speech yet.
THE SPEAKER: Well it is understood that these documents and notes of that Committee which met in private are confidential.
MR. MACENTEE: I presume that the publication of these documents will be regarded by this House as a breach of privilege, and that if they will be published——
MR. HOGAN: I have been listening for five minutes to the debate which went on on the assumption that some of the Committee are trying underhand methods to get out these things—that somebody is trying to get out documents which are confidential. Is that a fair statement?
THE SPEAKER: That statement has not been made.
MR. HOGAN: I say on behalf of this side of the Committee that we are doing our best to the contrary.
PRESIDENT DE VALERA: I never made any remarks of the kind. I would have kept silent on it were it not for the remark of the Deputy for Longford that they went down on their knees to get unity.
MR. MACGUINNESS: To anybody who was present yesterday it will be clear that what I have said is absolutely true.
The House adjourned at 1.40 p.m.
The Dáil Eireann Session was resumed at 4.10 p.m. on Saturday, 7th January, 1922, with THE SPEAKER (DR. MACNEILL) in the Chair.
MR. LIAM MELLOWES: On a point of information, there is a notice of motion here by Doctor MacNeill. Is that in order?
THE SPEAKER: In order? Well, it is.
MR. LIAM MELLOWES: Should we not get twenty-four hours' notice?
[320]THE SPEAKER: It is not put before you yet. Very likely you will have forty-eight hours' notice of it.
MADAME MARKIEVICZ: Is that a vote of confidence by the people who are voting for Saorstát na hEireann?
THE SPEAKER: It can't be discussed now.
At the request of the Speaker the Secretary, Mr. Diarmuid O'Hegarty, called the roll, when 122 members answered.
MR. DANIEL CORKERY: I rise to vote against this Treaty; I believe if I voted for this Treaty I would be voting against the independence of my country; I am not prepared to do that. I believe, also, if we go into this British Empire we will go in there as a prop to hold up a rotten Empire. We have heard a lot here of the alternative to this Treaty— terrible and immediate war. Well, I have the honour of representing Mid-Cork in this Dáil, and I think this guerilla warfare was started in Mid.-Cork; I believe the first lorry was attacked in Mid.-Cork; the people have been with us all the time up to the Truce and they never flinched though they often heard the angry crack of the rifle and machine gun. The people down there do not want war, but they are not half as much afraid of war as the people from other counties who have not fired a shot yet. I am against this Treaty.
MR. JOSEPH MACGUINNESS: I am sorry to admit that I have lost; this was the shortest speech yet.
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