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  • Steam Ship Lady Wicklow berthing at Engineer Jetty, Passage West, Cork 1922...prior to the skirmishing.
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    We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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    • british postal order overprinted, 1922.
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      in god i trust...everyone else cash only.

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      • THE GOVERNMENT’S EXECUTIONS POLICY DURING THE IRISH
        CIVIL WAR 1922 – 1923
        I google because I'm not young enough to know everything.
        Nemo Mortalium Omnibus Horis Sapit

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        • Originally posted by jembo View Post
          THE GOVERNMENT’S EXECUTIONS POLICY DURING THE IRISH
          CIVIL WAR 1922 – 1923
          http://eprints.maynoothuniversity.ie...2129007%29.pdf
          Excellent find there JBo.... I'm slowly working my way through it....great stuff.
          We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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          • The Curragh Civil War Executions December19th 1922
            By: A.J. Mullowney


            Eighty years ago, in December 1922, the Curragh Camp was the scene of a terrible tragedy; it was the execution, by firing squad, of seven young men in the Military Detention Barracks, now the Curragh Prison. The full story of the events of the week from 13 December 1922, when the men were arrested, to 19 December 1922, when they were executed, is not now known. All of the people involved are dead, and with them their stories. It appears that all official records of the executions have been lost or destroyed.

            The events took place during the Civil War. Successful military operations by the Free State forces had led, by the end of 1922, to the cessation by the anti-treaty side of conventional operations and they had resorted to guerrilla warfare directed against supply lines and communications. The Curragh Camp was occupied by the Free State Army while a small column of Irregulars, as those supporting the anti-treaty side in arms were termed, operated in the vicinity of Kildare town. Most of this small column were railway employees and they largely confined their operations to trying to disrupt the operation
            of the railway line in the vicinity of Kildare town.

            The Leinster Leader of 23 December 1922 reported that a column of ten men had operated against railways, goods trains and shops in the vicinity of Kildare for some time. Five of them had apparently taken part in an attempt to disrupt communications by derailing engines on 11 December. Two engines had been taken from a shed at Kildare and one of them had been sent down the line into an obstruction at Cherryville, thereby blocking the line. It was also alleged that goods trains had been looted and shops robbed in the locality. The same column was also reported to have taken part in an ambush of Free State troops at the Curragh siding on 25 November. On 13 December the men were surprised in a dug-out at a farmhouse at Moore’s Bridge, on the edge of the Curragh plains, by Free State troops. In the dug-out were ten men, ten rifles, a quantity of ammunition, and other supplies. The men were arrested and conveyed to the Curragh. The proprietress of the farmhouse was also arrested and lodged in Mountjoy Prison. Controversy surrounds the circumstances of the death of Thomas Behan, one of the men. One version ha it that his arm was broken when he Wa: being apprehended and he wa~ subsequently killed by a blow of a rifl butt on the head, at the scene of the raid when he was unable to climb on th~ truck that conveyed the men to the Curragh. The official version was thai he was shot when attempting to escape from a hut in which he was detained in the Curragh Camp.

            Sometime between 13-1 8 December seven of the men were tried before a military court. They were found guilty of being in possession of arms without authority and sentenced to death. The day before their execution the seven men were ministered to by Father Donnelly, chaplain in the Curragh.

            The seven men executed were:

            • Stephen White (18)
            Abbey St., Kildare

            • Joseph Johnston (18)
            Station Rd., Kildare

            • Patrick Mangan (22)
            Fair Green, Kildare

            • Patrick Nolan (34)
            Rathbride, Kildare

            • Brian Moore (37)
            Rathbride, Kildare (Leader of the column)

            • James O’Connor (24)
            Bansha, Co. Tipperary

            • Patrick Bagnall (19)
            Fair Green, Kildare

            The execution was carried out by firing squad at 8.30 a.m. on the 19th December 1922 in the Military Detention Barracks, Curragh Camp. It was the biggest single execution carried out in the Civil War.

            The men were allowed to write final letters the night before their execution and some of these were later published in the republican paper Eire, (The Irish Nation) of 31 March 1923. Letters written by Stephen White were not published, but one of them I reproduce here with the permission of his relatives, which is representative of the rest:

            HARE PARK PRISON
            CURRAGH
            KILDARE.
            18th December, 1922,

            Dear Father

            I am writing this letter, sorry to say it is my last as I am to die at 8.15 to-morrow, Tuesday. I am sorry I cannot see any of you before I go, but, I hope by the time you get this to be with my poor Mother In Heaven, with God’s help. I hope you will all say a prayer for me. I never saw Jimmie since the night we were arrested, but, thank God it is me instead of him that was to go. He will be more use to you than I would, and tell him if ever he gets out, which, with the help of God, he will, to start work and give up this game as it is not worth it.

            We have been treated all right since we came here and we were all with the Priest to-day, and will be with him all night. I am sorry I cannot see you all to hid you Good bye “, but, I suppose we will all meet the other side,

            I will bid you all a last “Good bye’~ and pray for me.

            GOOD BYE, FATHER.

            STEPHEN

            The men were buried in the grounds of the Detention Barracks but their remains were later exhumed and lay in state in the Courthouse in Kildare town before being re-buried in Grey Abbey Cemetery, Kildare in 1924. A gravestone was subsequently erected over their grave and a monument erected in the Market Square, Kildare.

            In August 2002 two nephews of Stephen White visited Kildare and the Curragh Camp to revisit the scenes of the episode. Stephen White, a son of the Jimmie mentioned in the letter, from England and Paul White, son of another brother, Michael, from Canada met for the first time in 50 years. They visited the Curragh Prison, Moore’s Bridge, Grey Abbey Cemetery and the monument in Kildare town square. They are anxious to make contact with anyone who has any information regarding the events of 1922 and to establish contact with any relations who might still be living in the Kildare area.

            These terrible events of the Civil War affected some local people for many years. Eighty years later it is fitting to remember the episode as a part of our history and to commemorate the seven young men who lost their lives that December day.
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            Last edited by jembo; 19-02-2018, 08:13 PM.
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            • What a waste of young lives on both sides...

              The 100th anniversary is coming up - how are we expected to commemorate all that ?
              Everything is self-evident.

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              • Casualties of the Irish Civil War in Dublin
                Towards a figure for civil war casualties in Dublin and environs, January 1922-November 1924. By John Dorney. (Final update September 2016)

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                • Originally posted by cogito View Post
                  What a waste of young lives on both sides...

                  The 100th anniversary is coming up - how are we expected to commemorate all that ?
                  Perhaps a day of mourning would be suitable, with flags at half mast.
                  I google because I'm not young enough to know everything.
                  Nemo Mortalium Omnibus Horis Sapit

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                  • Another Hogan press pic with the boyos pounding the Gresham and Hammam hotels. the Hammam was where Cathal Brugha aka Charles William St John Burgess emerged from after ordering his men to surrender....when the fire got the better of him he came out with revolver blazing and was shot in the legs by Free State troops as ordered....problem was the severance of his main artery...rushed to hospital.....he unfortunately died two days later from loss of blood....

                    There's no doubt he had some backbone as demonstrated in the South Dub Union against the Brits....during the Rising it was said he was so full of lead you could hear him rattling before ye saw him.

                    Buried 10 July 1922.....Glasnevin Republican Plot.
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                    We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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                    • Originally posted by cosmo View Post
                      is this Collins being removed from the hospital, tag just says 'august `22'....is that liam tobin behind and mc keown ??
                      Not Collins Cos.....One of twelve shot in the Civil War 1 Aug '22.
                      Don't see Tobin....but which one are you calling Mac Eoin ????
                      We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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                      • Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
                        Not Collins Cos.....One of twelve shot in the Civil War 1 Aug '22.
                        Don't see Tobin....but which one are you calling Mac Eoin ????
                        man on the left, just thought he looked like mac eoin. thought that was tobin beside him.
                        in god i trust...everyone else cash only.

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                        • Originally posted by cosmo View Post
                          man on the left, just thought he looked like mac eoin. thought that was tobin beside him.
                          Ish like..... but don't think so Cos......don't think he was ever in the Med Corps... Lt General when he married Alice Cooney on 21 June 1922. Your pic 1 Aug '22.
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                          • Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
                            Ish like..... but don't think so Cos......don't think he was ever in the Med Corps... Lt General when he married Alice Cooney on 21 June 1922. Your pic 1 Aug '22.
                            dt,

                            I meant the men following the coffin.
                            in god i trust...everyone else cash only.

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                            • Originally posted by cosmo View Post
                              dt,

                              I meant the men following the coffin.
                              Still cant see either Mac or Tobin there m8
                              We'll sail be the tide....aarghhhh !!

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                              • Originally posted by DAMNTHEWEATHER View Post
                                Not Collins Cos.....One of twelve shot in the Civil War 1 Aug '22...
                                Have you more info on that ?
                                Everything is self-evident.

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